Your assertions are all true but your logic is faulty. About 5.32.0. There's gotta be something we're missing out. Early on it was viewed as very useful and pragmatic, but it came with a lot of caveats. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Larry was originally going to include the 'a' and name the language 'Pearl'. That's a far leap from saying the module is "broken, bad and wrong". You’re also neglecting many advanced features like Moo/se, web frameworks that still drive profitable large scale businesses and probably the best ORM – DBIx::Class. I recently learned Python and while I think I'm pretty OK at it, I still have WTF moments from time to time. In fact I recently snuck some perl code into production at my company a month or so ago: we needed an android app to post data to a backend where it could later be analyzed. Anybody have an opinion on that? Perl isn’t dead.It’s just dead to some programmers. jhbadger on Oct 7, 2019. Btw: The book "Perl One-Liners" from No Starch is not bad for people who want to learn a bit of Perl to become "dangerous". 0000040 l a i n ; c h a r s e t = I S That said, since the article has been updated, there’s no more issue with that. Bold predication - in 2024 there will still be plenty of Perl running. Work 93% of the time. Could be extinct by 2023. Yes, but it turns out the Powershell processing time is between 10 and 50 times that of Perl. It seems like the author is just arguing that since the syntax is different it's worse? PHP sucks. In fact, many languages even deliberately provide support to remove parameter count checks and get Perl’s @_ semantics. Personally aside from getting sucked into ~ 30% devops over the last few years, I've had trouble finding decently paid work that isn't perl. Perl is slow. Note that PHP doesn’t expose raw headers and avoid this class of issues entirely. I'm not sure using a very outdated CGI example as an illustration of why Perl is dying is all that convincing. Follow this blog. And a lot of glue scripts are still written in perl at various software houses. Perl just has a lot of syntactic sugar which can make it look like line noise to someone that doesn't understand it. dpkg utilities in Debian or Linux kernel profiling stuff. Is it the number of users that matters? Not sure if Ruby is significant enough to stand on its own, guessed not. I always thought that people who took perl further than 'great for sysadmin type tasks' were a little nuts. We cannot remove the existence of these pieces, but we can move the display. If it's free it's not getting money from users to finance that; if the user base is dwindling it also means there are few developers or other-company employees to work on it. Could be extinct by 2023. Perl, however, was everywhere. The server must translate the header data from the CGI header syntax to the HTTP header syntax if these differ. Other than C++ in high school, Perl was one of the first languages that I learned. People search for Perl and find ‘Perl is Dead’. It’s reaching zero market share on this chart, what you’re seeing from 2018 onward is a single pixel as google trend is rounding up a near-zero value. But imagine if I wanted to prove popularity by using 'last year in Hacker News' in titles. Some rather famous Wall Street ones actually. https://www.mongodb.com/blog/post/the-mongodb-perl-driver-is... https://github.com/duckduckgo?language=perl. That said, something dies when it is no longer useful. The story of Perl is a very sad one as it went from one of the top web programming languages, but, as time went on, it became viewed as a write-only language which triggered its demise. Perl was a joy to use. I still went forward, but it was yet another reminder of the state the language is in. I ported the work to mySQL. Python: 3,360 COBOL would outlive both by far and go on to 2030. But Perl does have functions with arguments, by all definitions. It’s a fun bundle of ideas, and maybe some of those ideas will spread and be useful elsewhere, but I doubt it will ever catch on itself. In those days it was centred on Usenet and mailing lists, and the general attitude was freewheeling and fun. The article asserts that the examples from stackoverflow had the bugs, in other words the Python one, not the Perl one. Apple has to keep it to still adhere to POSIX (which is still a relevant classification to many big buyers in government and enterprise). How to Deduplicate String Objects In-Memory in Python? Later I shifted to templating modules like HTML::Template and Template::Toolkit. There are many ressources on the web, blogs and presentations about why it is not bad and why it has a bad reputation it doesn't deserve - just have look at … How many of those Perl story titles are some variation on "it's dead/not dead" though? So I'd say, Perl looks almost dead and buried in the jobs advertised market at the moment. Perl is a bit punctuation- and magic-variable-heavy, but is far from unique in being so. would read a character or number from the terminal and assign it to X; ?=X would print that value. Perl runs on over 100 platforms from portables to mainframes and is suitable for both rapid prototyping and large scale development projects. Programming in Perl may not be as "hip" as programming in that cool new language released last year, but Perl … * Work use of Perl and and hiring for Perl positions. Not that any of this tiny niggles invalidate your main point. Sigils? That is shady as f*. There is the one liner bash syntax for Ruby: I always thought that the original idea of Perl was slapping sh, sed and awk together into one language. For one-liners, I considered switching from Perl to AWK, but gave up because AWK behaves differently on BSD and Linux. The CGI example is straight copy/pasted from the official Perl guide, November 2018. https://www.perl.com/article/perl-and-cgi/. Yet, about half of the best paid contracts I see have Python as the primary skill. What you call “functions with arguments” has been supported since Perl 5.20. https://perldoc.pl/perlsub#Signatures. RedHat is specifically targeted to government and enterprise. Nope, it's not dead at all! Perl does not scale to high loads or high codebases. This desktop task started with Microsoft Excel, something of a nightmare 64-bit version notwithstanding. Probably yes. Prior to Perl, one would have to hack together in either Bourne or C-shell a series of commands all strung together, poorly. :-) ). new Books, articles, or library/modules published? There’s a good story on how it came to be eclipsed by C++, C# and Java over 20 years. Everyone hates Perl. Perl has advantages as a systems scripting language for one thing. The answer is no. The current state of Perl 5 for Python fans: It’s correct to say that Perl has full support for routines and parameters, it does and even in multiple ways, but it’s not comparable to what is in mainstream languages today. Definitely not something to use for new projects. Elsewhere, on the Perl-specific job sites there are a few jobs shown these days, many are "not currently hiring", and the dates reveal they are keeping old ones in the list, perhaps to hide the fact that there's only a handful in the last month. I’m sorry for my impoliteness, Perl lives on in regular expressions since Python and other languages adopted Perl expressions – really the best part of the language (if you ask me). > For example, it doesn’t support functions with arguments. If you were writing an HTTP API, you would probably do something very similar although not running over CGI. There is all too often a negative opinion, sometimes without a balanced discussion attached. Stripe has its systems written in Ruby without using Rails, for example. I think since 2015. Heck it was only a couple years ago that macOS used Perl for string processing in libc. In a shorter version, the interpreters are still there and buried, just not on $PATH and given to the user as a what they should use. I hate to be this guy, but Ruby on Rails is not a language, and Ruby the language was first release in 1995. If it weren't for the current Python hype (AI/ML and devops), I'd have more project that require Perl than Python. Like its peers, Perl and Haskell, Lua might be showing its age in terms of developer excitement and usage. That doesn't indicate something is dying, but it looks the same in graphs, and extrapolating from those lines won't show you what you think it is. The amount of 'legacy' systems that run Perl and need maintenance is staggering. Modern IDEs make syntax addition cheap. This is actually covered in the "perldoc perlop" documentation under the "Quote and Quote-like Operators" section (available at https://perldoc.perl.org/perlop.html#Quote-Like-Operators): > All systems use the virtual "\n" to represent a line terminator, called a "newline". Get news about the cloud and the latest devops tools. I like that it does not limit what I want to do programmatically. Just doing stats. Mostly using it for text replacement, regex, and basic server functions. “Dynamic” languages all rely to some degree or other on runtime checks; how and what you check is something you weigh against other tradeoffs in the language design. It says in the source article "you probably don’t want to use CGI for modern web development", then explains all the reasons why not, pointing you to modern frameworks such as Catalyst, Mojolicious and Dancer. It's just a basic example to show what the language looks like. A healthy portion of my time (25% is my estimate) comes from Perl freelance work. No question it's less popular than it was years ago for numerous reasons. Perl is certainly not dead, but it does face an adoption challenge. Let's be clear: if Perl was ever dead, it must now be undead.If you can't be at YAPC, you can still watch it live. I still write Perl one-liners on the command line for ad hoc data processing, and actually I think Perl is still the best available tool for that, although younger coders tend not to be familiar with it any more. having read the article I agree with only one point that the author makes: once Perl is removed from the default installs, it will lose one of its advantages, being there and working by default. Java: 3,931 However, Perl is the first of its kind. And what does 'heard about it mean' anyway. It is funy thing about human brain, it skips the word NOT. It’s still here. Perl in its time did a brilliant job of moving “scripting” languages forward, but other languages have taken up the baton and moved well beyond it. Curt J. Sampson’s explained splendidly to you how wrong your statement was, and he did not even make a complete listing of programming languages that existed before Perl came to life. I can jump in and get work done immediately because there are so few ways to do things. Although the implication that the scripts “only do a basic print” might be the author assuming there is a bug in the Perl one, which is obviously not the case if you look at the source for the module in use here – which goes to great lengths to support doing the correct thing across a very wide range of operating systems. Perl has been on the decline for a while. > "Perl was a popular programming language about 30 years ago", And if sometime in the future Perl is no longer included by default, it will be installed "by dependency" just when you install packages like rsnapshot, CSF firewall, etc. It's not dead yet. Same in the 3 languages straight from the textbook and stack overflow. I use Perl in my current job. I'm often tempted to rant about semantics and documentation culture in Python but then I remember hey, lots of people have similar criticisms of languages I know better, so maybe I should just give it some time. I have the same experience. If the language is being maintained and bugs fixed, is that dying? I have been programming in Perl since the mid 90s. I do know somebody who is using perl for a RESTful api backend for a line of business app. @thehftguy what are you talking about? By the forces a circumstances, I had to reverse engineer and decommission a few Perl scripts in an old company earlier this year. I'm still not sure whether it is. Typically those making/selling the language/tooling will be among the last to know about it, as well as a few curious googlers. Hell no it's not dead. It's easy and adaptable and I have quite a few languages under my … Certainly popular enough to be considered among the major programming languages at the time. Way better than what came before it, and only just a little worse than what came after. French judge rules GPL license to be inapplicable in French copyright court, What Every Developer Should Know About Civil Law and Software Subscriptions. Sure, Perl isn’t dead…just like COBOL isn’t, either. https://metacpan.org/pod/perlsub#Signatures. The perl code processes the entire stack of input files in about two minutes. I have nothing against Perl, I just find that the young are much more likely to know Python. Not all systems read "\r" as ASCII CR and "\n" as ASCII LF. It's helpful to have that abstracted away, but you should realize that magic is happening and that you generally shouldn't use it for machine-to-machine communication. Certainly not the kind of Perl a software engineer in a startup is producing today. Minimal dependencies. That's my primary use case for perl 'when it gets a little to complex for bash, just use perl'. Your reaction was curt and not the apology it should have been. What AES ciphers to use between CBC, GCM, CCM, Chacha-Poly? Java was released in 1995 *before* JavaScript was release (also in 1995), JDK 1.0 was released on January 23, 1996 as per wikipedia and this https://web.archive.org/web/20070310235103/http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/1996-01/sunflash.960123.10561.xml. It is a fantastic language but I can not justify teaching others it, or encouraging them to learn about it. One programmer I knew called it a “piecemeal” language, because it seemed as if the creators had just piled features on top of features without giving much thought as to how everything fit together.Click here to find programming jobs.Indeed, even its creators see… You may probably want to take a look at Dancer. Perl is dead. Well, I don’t think it became really popular until CGI programs took off in the mid-90s. It's really not much. There is still a lot of new mainframe code written today. Yet, when I go searching, I don't see much work around if I search for Perl. A Perl and Raku Conf 9,765 views """Perl officially stands for Practical Extraction and Report Language, except when it doesn't.""". It’s just a simple example to show what the languages look like, including variable, loop and print. That kinda dismisses about 30 years of programming language history before Perl, and at least a couple of dozen major languages, including LISP, FORTRAN, Algol, BASIC, PL/1, Pascal, Smalltalk, ML, FORTH, Bourne shell and AWK, just off the top of my head. Posted in r/programming by u/linuxer • 199 points and 204 comments In general, use "\n" when you mean a "newline" for your system, but use the literal ASCII when you need an exact character. Are you implying that COBOL and Delphi are fast growth languages? That said, I know you’re arm-waving the history here, and those details are not really part of the point of your post. Maybe there was a way to optmiize the Powershell, but the regular expression evaluation was atrocious compared to Perl. You know the kind. If WordPress is really doing that, the next article will be about wordpress distributing malware. Complicated regexes? * Just general, unquantified impressions from Perl communities I vaguely follow (twitter, Perl questions on Stack Overflow, some IRC channels etc). If you’re thinking of learning Perl or starting a new project in Perl, you might want to reconsider. Which makes code look more arcane than it needs to, to outsiders, unfortunately. Did you notice the article is dated April 1, 2019? The illustration image (I gather this is what confused you) is from a 1998 book... Perl lacks uniformity of syntax which is sort of a problem, but it does excel at helping to manage the mess that is real world problems. Dead as in hasn't received an update in years. Perl was immensely popular amongst those of us doing Unix sysadmin from the late 80s through about 2000 in applications that had nothing at all to do with the web. Perl is a family of two high-level, general-purpose, interpreted, dynamic programming languages. The OSS world is all glitter? Perl was great when it came out, but there's a lot of better alternatives available ("better" in terms of robust language definition and diminished likelihood of a typo leading to a sound-but-incorrect program, which seem to be two things that developers value more over terseness in an era where IDEs assist with editing in verbose languages). Perhaps a little bit of research could help your point as well. Well, I've read and written more Perl than maybe I should have spent the time doing. I heard Perl being referred to as, “the COBOL of the Web,” on Slashdot not so long ago, and considered it an apt analogy. I have not used it but I have heard it is as lightweight as you want (in the sense that it may be huge but you only need to use the basics if that is all you need). I keep hearing about how there is demand for good Perl programmers, especially ones who know other things too, because there's so much Perl out there which needs maintenance, modernisation, or conversion to something else. They’re both horribly ugly languages that should have died long ago, but their … No, it isn't dead by a long shot. The flexibility in Perl is nice, and while references can be a real PitA, a weird assertion to just make. What if I told you I personally retired the last Perl system at JP Morgan before writing this article. Ditto the busybox shells on a million embedded systems, but I guess that's a bit beyond most here. Perl is a dead. That was fun. > Warning you probably don’t want to use CGI for modern web development, see Why Not to Use CGI. Any language you haven't taken the time to understand is write only. One day my comment on the article might get approved showing that the. Perl, or some parts of it (like its Object Oriented Programming support) is very weak. Without any user action? Indeed, Perl does have named function parameters, the same as almost all modern languages - and I highly recommend using them. 93% of random characters are valid Perl programs. The CGI example is straight copy/pasted from the official Perl guide, November 2018. https://www.perl.com/article/perl-and-cgi/. I love Perl. He won't be long... TIOBE: No, gotta get to Reddit, they lost nine today. Perl 5 is far from dead. There is no such thing as an unvarying, physical newline character. It’s still heavily used for the tasks it was used for when I learnt it, in 1994–1995, but at that time, it looked set for an even brighter future: it was develop > I used to write Perl but I do not take it out of the tool chest anymore and I see very few Perl codebases in the OSS world. I have used ExpressJS, Django, Flask and other modern web frameworks, and for building modern web projects Mojolicious easily holds its own, despite the smaller teams behind it. Perl is a highly capable, feature-rich programming language with over 30 years of development. Says the pointy-haired boss type of person. It’s quite a bold claim, do you have an example? Ruby: 687 And I know of an immense amount of companies still using Perl. But to say you’re going to write in C++ the parts that you could write times faster in Python (or whatever your higher-level language of choice is) with no real penalty in execution time is just dumb. I think it’s fair to say that Perl can be considered a dead language. Probably not that much (but somewhat, I would argue), but if you're going to make a case on statistics, don't do a crappy job of it... At first I thought it was a bug, but then I realized that there must be two different variables called src, one was a scalar and the other was an array (I think that's what it's called it's been 15 years since I've used it). The thing that RHEL is trying to fix is to prevent customers from being tied to the system python/perl and should install a version that works for them and the application they are trying to run. All great, except for the occasional special character or random corrupt line fed to us by the corporate accounting system. Link to Google Trend: Delphi, Haskell, COBOL, Perl, Rust. I do have a ton of extra columns I'm filtering out but that's really good. It's one of just a few top skills for high day-rate gigs (along with DevOps), and this surprises me in a way, because although Python is perfectly usable, and very well supported, it's not amazing, it's quite slow, and its standard library is messy and inconsistent too. As someone who has used Perl for about 15 years I have no dispute with the claim that it is dying, and much as I love it, Node and Python have some significant advantages, particularly for new programmers. > Nothing personal with Perl. If we found a planet with 350 billion humanoids, we'd say, Booking.com might keep it alive for a while. The header() function does the right thing and inserts the correct line end characters. After that I never wrote any "real" code in Perl, but I kind of want to write some clever, convoluted Perl code just because I can. Craigslist extensively and ongoing. I use enough other things that it's not that important to me, but it's a bit of a shame. I'm not sure if Ruby is significant enough to stand on its own, guessed not. Things that would have needed dozens of bug-prone lines of C could be done in just a few characters. > That makes one wonder about who else is still using Perl? Another newly-born idiot-hater who illustrates his nonsence by samples of code from 199x As for your argument that Perl is dying and should be avoided for new projects, it is especially specious. I checked the provided example, fixed `\N` to be `\n` (this bug causes a compilation error, so it would be noticed during compilation). Is that a sign of a dying language? Can you find the bug(s)? So we think it is time to reposition the conversation. Or if I want a 100-line script that will work in 2029 the same as it works today and won't require any stuff to be installed first? For what it’s worth, Perl was THE server side web language 20 years ago. Of course, languages don’t go “extinct”. That’s about when PHP started to get popular – because the learning curve was lower and simple things were simpler. It redirected me to a fake Mac "system warning" page twice in a row. if any? Posted on July 21, 2016 July 21, 2016 by Lech. In Perl, "\n" has a similar kind of platform-specific behavior like it does in some other languages (such as C). Can’t remember the last time I’ve heard about it. So much wasted energy bashing other languages. I was doing systems work, and the only tools I really had at my disposal was what was on the servers I had in the space with me. One example I just happened to be looking at today is VTL-2 (“A Very Tiny Language”) which, admittedly, ran under unusually heavy memory constraints (a 768 byte interpreter able to run not utterly trivial programs in a total of 1 KB of memory). Download Learn Docs CPAN Community That's why we love Perl 25,000 extensions on CPAN. Or put another way: https://xkcd.com/1205/ and https://xkcd.com/1319/. Traditionally most users would just build their system scripts on python 2.x (because it is there), which means that if you upgrade the distro from RHEL X to RHEL Y (which brings a python 3.x) you break a user's environment. I am not attempting to give an exhaustive list of programming languages any means. > Contrast with Perl, which was mainly used by niche hackers (in the original, respectful sense), used in the types of products that live by the SV valley motto of "move fast and break things". Subroutines don’t return complex structures, Strict mode declaration checking, hashes, foreach style iterators are much less functional or missing in AWK. That's inaccurate. Perl isn't dead. For example, the character sequence for newline (such as Unix’s ASCII NL) used by CGI scripts may not be the same as that used by HTTP (ASCII CR followed by LF). I think it’s fair to say that Perl is about magic symbols that do stuff, so much that 93% of random characters are valid Perl programs. It's not the most arcane usage but it would probably take several lines to do what awk does in one. It saddens me that perl does not get more love. This was a constant problem when you were trying to go through the RHEL 5-6-7 upgrade paths among other things. This is generally what formal education is supposed to solve. Found in Citrix NetScaler CVE-2019–19781: What You Need to Know by Craig Young. TIOBE: I can't take 'im off like that! HTML: 214,423 This is just like a book on antique furniture restoration. So, Perl has been a big part of my programming life. The core languages has exactly what you’re talking about since 2014 in v5.20 https://www.perl.com/article/72/2014/2/24/Perl-levels-up-with-native-subroutine-signatures/ The “experimental” status was reset due to a change in that spec. Basically sounds like you came across those bad old scripts no one maintained for 15 years and dug up some stackoverflow stats to vent the Perl anger that the untrained monk succumbs to (lol!). Either way, still puzzling there is a typo in the official example. Since 2009 Function::Parameters https://metacpan.org/pod/Function::Parameters was available using more formal extension mechanisms. There is actually a real discussion to be had on how BSD (or any software) continues to be developed and maintained, with support for current hardware. Contrast with Perl, which was mainly used by niche hackers (in the original, respectful sense), used in the types of products that live by the SV valley motto of "move fast and break things". Wondering where it comes from. There are few new high-profile projects in Perl as it is. Particularly when Perl does have prototypes with more call site checking than Python or Ruby do, albeit as part of a language feature for doing things that neither those nor any other language you mention support. Mojolicious for almost everything web related. Flagging accordingly. Perl’s growth is currently on a decline. Perl is truly unique in that it is genuinely unique and exotic. Free Talk Live Welcome to the Free Talk Live bulletin board system! I know some folks in the bioinformatics community who still write CGIs in perl and I really have to wonder why. Ptolemarch writes At the Yet Another Perl Conference beginning today in Orlando, the first keynote squarely blamed Slashdot for starting the "Perl is Dead" meme in 2005. But seriously, Perl 5.30 just came out in May. Much of its syntax and semantics are inspired by Bourne shell, AWK and similar languages, and a number of these ideas were even carried forward into Ruby. Perl 5: I don't want to go off the chart.... Internet: Can you hang around a couple of minutes? It's always there in every Linux distribution. If you're building a message to go on the wire as part of a protocol that needs certain specific characters, and if you're trying to write portable code, then you shouldn't use "\n" (or "\r"). If it's not gaining new feature, does that mean it's dying? Some personal reflections about the evolution and death or programming languages. Perl may not be right for you or your project, but please don’t base your decision on this straw man argument. We're just busy doing stuff. Not saying Perl doesn't have challenges with its popularity, but this isn't a very good case as to why it's dying. Making sure your’e using the efficient C/C++ code for the parts where you really need a lot of performance, but still being able to use a much less efficient language for the other work, is tricker than you think; it’s easy to design an API that suddenly sticks you with having to move some processing up into Python unnecessarily and slows down things by a couple of orders of magnitude, or makes you go write C++ code to do trivial things that are nonetheless much harder to write in C++ than Python. It is interesting that people are searching Google for “Perl” less and less. I can understand, that you don’t like Perl as a language, but it doesn’t mean you should write misconceptions about it. It was like a puzzle. TL;DR some people say there's demand for work in Perl and it pays well, others say they can't find Perl work, it doesn't seem to be advertised, and they have moved on to other things as a result. Core development (including the release frequency) has been more active than it has been in years. I never like Perl I remember it's heyday, just through sheer inertia it'll be around for a while. Just look at the examples here instead https://mojolicious.org/ notice the -signatures one especially! C++ seems to be having a bit of a rennaissance now, and that was created in 1979! The CGI example you mentioned is broken, but is also using a module (CGI.pm) that's been bad and wrong for so long that even Perl, with its eternal love for backwards compatibility has removed it from Perl Core. 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